Different topics from good logic.

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On hadiths:

There is hope. Here is more verses and good logic comments for you to ponder about hadiths:

[Qoran 6:19] Say, “Whose testimony is the greatest?” Say, “God’s. He is the witness between me and you that this Qoran has been inspired to me, to preach it to you and whomever it reaches. Indeed, you bear witness that there are other gods beside God.” Say, “I do not testify as you do; there is only one god, and I disown your idolatry.”

( Can you see Qoran and hadith in 6:19verse?)

[Qoran 6:38] We did not leave anything out of this book.

Perhaps GOD did not really leave hadiths out for certain people?

[Qoran 7:52] We have given them a scripture that is fully detailed, with knowledge, guidance, and mercy for the people who believe.
[Qoran 10:37] This Qoran could not possibly be authored by other than God. It confirms all previous messages, and provides a fully detailed scripture. It is infallible, for it comes from the Lord of the universe.

Perhaps GOD has forgotten about hadiths?
Oh,wait a minute ,GOD has not forgotten hadiths,here they are:

[Qoran 12:111] In their history, there is a lesson for those who possess intelligence. This is not fabricated Hadith; this (Qoran) confirms all previous scriptures, provides the details of everything, and is a beacon and mercy for those who believe.

I sometimes wonder if GOD means what He says .

On Qoran and slaves:

Qoran does not need excuses. The lessons of old also apply to us and future generations.
One can argue about different details and contexts of “Mamalakat Aymaanukum” but no one can come up with”Have sex with your slaves” ,if they do they are simply ignoring what Qoran really says .
So,according to some,Qoran is contradicting itself!!! How can GOD say “Do not commit adultery” yet allow sex with slaves/others?

Others say Why did GOD not specifically say “No slaves” and “No polygamy” full stop? There will be no argument. Every one should marry one spouse . Simple and effective and cuts all avenues of this argument/s?

GOD did not . Why? This is where we are and this is where we can make our argument then leave each one to study Qoran and make up their own.

My argument,according to my study of Qoran is the following:
GOD has set up His system for all His creations,then gave us the “amana” as humans in particular. GOD knows the full picture,we only know our side of the big picture.
The issue for us is accept GOD s system or develop our own systems.

1) Those who accept GOD s system,,the message is crystal clear” Yastamiuuna Alkawla Fayattabiuuna Ahsanahu” “They follow the best path from the word of GOD” .Qoran s advice,do not take slaves,treat others like you would want to be treated, do not commit adultery,free your slaves if you had any before the guidance, to have one wife/husband ,look after  your children,family, or try to be fair in your existing marriage/s,do good…etc. No issues with this topic or any other topic,seek GOD s guidance and do your best.

2) accept your “amana”,follow other systems,which includes having slaves,treating people differently,polygamy,all sorts of mixtures. GOD is not enforcing His system on these people because of His promise . This is where GOD is giving advice to these systems and freeing men and women from the bondages that they find themselves in. His mercy is encompassing some of their sins and giving them ways out of oppressions and injustice, GOD knows people take lovers( and yes mostly the men,according to statistics around the world) ,GOD knows that women,children and some men are going to be oppressed and unfairly treated. This is what we are arguing about. What is Qoran saying to all those who are still not willing to “Submit ” to His system.

I conclude that for those who want to “submit” follow the best advice given by Qoran in all topics and situations and walk the way GOD s light is guiding you .i.e:Do not take slaves,do not commit adultery,do not marry more than one wife/husband,…etc. That is the big issue that needs tackling in all societies .
However ,the argument/s will continue. I cannot justify what others will not see/accept . Each will follow the path they choose.
I will close here,hoping that each one of us will look for the best advice GOD has given in Qoran and follow it.
That is my understanding and conclusion in this topic.

On testing your religion:

There are two ways to test your religion:

1) Follow your instinct and challenge all the doubts you have in your head and the contradictory bits that you come across. Be brave and honest with yourself,do not heed to peer and social pressure. Use your eyes,ears and brain and work hard at it.Always check how just and fair  you are with others

2) Go with the flow,live life ignoring your instinct and stay with your desires and false loyalties, even defend your way and false beliefs,ignoring justice and fairness to others until your death,then you will surely work out if you had the true religion.

So you can test it before you die or wait till death arrives.Remember GOD is very much aware of your testing intentions and applications.


GOD bless.

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